Turbo Sixes in Boats

Postby Inguneer » Sat May 30, 2009 1:25 pm

Just thinking out loud...

The Australian boat builders predominantly use the imported American V8's in there boats - I wonder if they ever considered using the Ford Turbo Six Cylinder from the XR6T?
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Postby Brycee » Sat May 30, 2009 1:46 pm

no one wants a filthy blue oval motor in their boat
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Postby nicvtx » Sat May 30, 2009 2:17 pm

be alot better on fuel.... and the turbo would kickass
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Postby dico2020 » Sat May 30, 2009 2:22 pm

i do brycee :lol:



the length of the straight 6 may be a bit of an issue.
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Postby Brycee » Sat May 30, 2009 2:41 pm

haha i was waitin for someone to say that
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Postby dave_699 » Sat May 30, 2009 2:50 pm

probaly slightly under powered... although much better on fuel. my mastercraft was 1950kg dry weight and ran a 340hp which i think is around 254kw, even that wasnt as powerfull as i would have liked it to be but i wasnt keen on spending any more on fuel, what are the xr6t KW, 220-225ish im thinking which would be around 298hp, not quite enough to push a decent size wake maker through the water.
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Postby Indy » Sat May 30, 2009 3:28 pm

The XR6T does have 450Nm of torque from 2000 rpm which would be perfect for wakeboarding speeds...
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Postby mof » Sat May 30, 2009 3:36 pm

Heat from the exhaust manifold and turbo is the biggest problem in a boat. With a boat, the load is constant, so if you are needing the higher hp to turn the prop on a loaded boat, heat load builds up in the exhaust, and everything under your engine cover starts getting very hot.
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Postby nicvtx » Sat May 30, 2009 3:44 pm

Correct me if I'm wrong, could you put an intercooler on it to help keep down the heat,
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Postby torin » Sat May 30, 2009 4:18 pm

At the end of the day, those of us that have owned and ran turbo cars know that when a turbo is ran at boost for long periods of time it runs red hot, there is no way you could get enough heat away from the turbo and the exhaust manifold to aviod something catching on fire, there just isn't enough air flow. Just my thoughts
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Postby Inguneer » Sat May 30, 2009 5:19 pm

There was a twin turbo 6 cylinder X-factor for sale a while back, so it can be done. I can remember that an issue with that was the boost was make it hard to control the speed, but it was fairly bombed. The Ford Turbo boost is controlled, so it should be smoother.

The old XR6T motor had 240kW, and the new one has 270kW - will the next one have 310?. Surely you can get the heat away, there are turbo diesels installed in boats everywhere.

I agree it would be longer, but it's only about 150mm at a guess. Maintenance would be easy as the sides of the engine would be easier to access than a V8.
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Postby dico2020 » Sat May 30, 2009 5:22 pm

dave_699 wrote:probaly slightly under powered... although much better on fuel. my mastercraft was 1950kg dry weight and ran a 340hp which i think is around 254kw, even that wasnt as powerfull as i would have liked it to be but i wasnt keen on spending any more on fuel, what are the xr6t KW, 220-225ish im thinking which would be around 298hp, not quite enough to push a decent size wake maker through the water.


just a tune in a xr6t will make 300+kw (at the fly)

a decent exhaust, injectors, cooler, wastegate mod will net 500+hp (at the fly) at around 14psi.

id go water to air cooler in a boat. as for catching fire.. i have one in my car and it hasnt caught fire..yet. build it properly and it shouldnt be a problem. and you wouldnt be on boost much of the time in a boat.

super reliable,sound to die for (imho), cheap horsepower and a bit lighter than a iron v8...

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Postby Inguneer » Sat May 30, 2009 5:30 pm

dico2020 wrote:super reliable,sound to die for (imho), cheap horsepower and a bit lighter than a iron v8...

vid of my banger..


Not too bad for a "filthy blue oval motor". :D

The heat in the turbo I thought came from the exhaust, just like any other exhaust manifold. If the motor had a water-cooled manifold it would keep the temperature down.
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Postby dico2020 » Sat May 30, 2009 5:44 pm

mabey, they rely on the heat to spin the turbine...but i know of people that have turbos mounted way back under their cars, the bloke has the fastest 3v v8 ba fairmont in the world.
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Postby dico2020 » Sat May 30, 2009 5:47 pm

orrrrrrrr.... you could mount the cooler to the top of the tower, and use the tower as fully sick intramacooler pipez
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Postby LeighKay » Sat May 30, 2009 6:11 pm

dico2020 wrote:orrrrrrrr.... you could mount the cooler to the top of the tower, and use the tower as fully sick intramacooler pipez


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Postby Hank_Bulger » Sat May 30, 2009 6:22 pm

interesting topic. my father used to have a gilflite with a holden supercharged V6, the standard 3.8L with an auto trans on it. so you had a few gears if you had a big guy you wanted to pull up.

sounded tuff as when it was pinging along.
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Postby AUSSIESINCE4EVA » Sat May 30, 2009 6:25 pm

this isnt such a silly idea if you check the ford website the new F6 is pumping more torque then the GT
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Postby dico2020 » Sat May 30, 2009 6:33 pm

has been for along time, when the f6 was released it had more torque than any aussie built car.
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Postby ITFEL » Sat May 30, 2009 8:14 pm

i have wondered this same thing... not for wakeboard boats but for the race ski ones ya see on tv sometimes... the classes are litres... so why couldnt ya go a eg. 2L turbo setup?? like a jap importy type motor and go from there??? surely itd have to be better than some 2L outboard motor???
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