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Postby stewie » Fri Sep 03, 2004 1:57 pm

can any one tell me about childs play boats good and bad
thank you 8)
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Postby JamesT » Fri Sep 03, 2004 2:33 pm

Yeah im interested to know too...something about a wakeboarding boat with massive engine+ballast???
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Postby darth » Sat Sep 04, 2004 10:49 am

Good curcuit race boats but not to sure about wakeboarding/skiing
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Postby JamesT » Sun Sep 05, 2004 11:48 am

Someone was telling me about a new wakeboarding model or something. They were rating it better than a supra...fat chance!
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Childs Play AirLine 22

Postby blackboat » Sun Sep 05, 2004 8:01 pm

I was up at Lower Porland the other day and dropped into "the shed". Which is what people on the river call ChildsPlay Marine. Heres what I found out.

The new Childsplay Wakeboard boat is called an AirLine 22.

Rob & Gary Newell are 4th generation Aussie boat builders.The Airline model is named after their recently departed fathers (Tim) first race boat which was a hydroplane called Airline which he built in his lounge room and then had to knock out a wall of the house to get it out.

Just so you know Childsplay Marine has built over 850 social boats under the model names of Apache & Commanche. Over 150 circuit race boats , with 6 litre boats that do over 120mph and blown boats that top 150mph.
Resale on both Apaches & Commanches are at near new prices.

Rob Newell is probally the best fibreglasser in the country. And brother Gary has designed and built the plug for this boat over the past 6 months.
Both of these guys are total perfectionists , their work is 2nd to NONE.

People who know the quality of the Newell brothers work are waiting in anticipation for the release of what appears to be one of the worlds best wakeboard boats. First boat due on the water in approx. 6 weeks.
This boat has been built by men who understand hydrodynamics and what makes a boat go, this hull has been designed to cut a massive wake and then it has been given the power to do it.

Want the spec's :
# 22'2 long , 97" wide , about the same gunnel height as a wakesetter
# large flared deep bow to keep the water out
# 454 big block engines as standard
# wakeboard speed at 2000rpm and around 20 lph fuel consumption
# Available in centre mount or rear mount.
# the Velvetdrive Vdrive is one unit and is unique to the AirLine 22"2
# 1100 litres of sub floor factory ballast with 3 min fill and empty times from force feed inputs and super high speed pump out systems.
# ballast tanks are baffled to stop surge and split to allow for ballancing
# ballast tanks have guages , as does the trim tab
#Seating for up to 14.
#New concept interior design allows for 5 facing backwards under the bimini plus the driver.
# 3" stainless steel swoop design tower
# JBL high output stereo system with 300w tower speakers
# OJ props , 5 inch multi guages(Perfect Pass/tacho)(Speedo/depth)(5in1)
# And here one for the guys who like to have a foot , top speed expected to be 55-60mph (as you would expect from the world record holder for mono inboard 158mph). This is not a dream , centremount Commanches with 454 engines do 65-70mph and they are 20"6.
#Hydrolic trim tab
#Air suspension drivers seat with lumbar support
#Hand & foot throttle , both operational simultaniously
#Easy access work station for weed trap , water sep , etc
#This thing is georgeous
# Good news , centremount with 454 from about $40k
# Rear mount with 454 from about $50k
#Bad news, build capacity of 12 boats per year
# Heres confidence , 6 orders already in place without a boat on the water

Just remember one thing guys the US does not have the monopoly on good boats . Connelly Craft and Cyclone ski race boats are the best in the world (made here) , Childsplay and Everingham circuit race boats smash the US circuit boat and lets not forget Spirit of Australia.

Watch for this thing , its amazing.
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Postby Somerset_Boarder » Tue Sep 07, 2004 6:21 pm

that aint a bad price at all!!! when you get some pics post em up, or do they have a website?
Sounds to good to be tru if they claim the best, not saying they wont be as they seem to have a load of ballest and all the "physics" of it all under tehre belt.

Any other info would be good...

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Postby conde » Tue Sep 07, 2004 9:34 pm

my mates dad has a childplay racing boat and it does 100 mp/h. it has a massively enhacned 40 hp tohatsu and runs at about 8900 revs. they are good at making race boats, but unsure weather they will be able to produce a quality wakeboat that is "supra standard". CANT WAIT TO SEE IT THOUGH!!!!!
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Re: Childs Play AirLine 22

Postby Brownie » Wed Sep 08, 2004 9:15 am

[quote="blackboat
This boat has been built by men who understand hydrodynamics and what makes a boat go, this hull has been designed to cut a massive wake and then it has been given the power to do it.

# 1100 litres of sub floor factory ballast with 3 min fill and empty times from force feed inputs and super high speed pump out systems. [/quote]

If they understand hydrodynamics why does it need 1100 litres? But that said it sounds great, really interested to see the finished product.
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Postby klaw81 » Fri Sep 10, 2004 5:01 pm

Designing ski race boats is a bit different to designing wake boats - I guess you just take what you know works well for race boats and do the exact opposite!

I'd be interested to see how it turns out - I'm sure it will be well built but won't be surprised if it's not that fantastic first time out - remember the US companies (and some of the Aussie companies too, for that matter) have had plenty of time to develop something that works, and learn from their own mistakes. These guys would have to be incredibly good to get it exactly right first time out. Good luck to them but - go Aussie!
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Postby Jackass » Thu Sep 16, 2004 11:14 pm

Hey guys,
Just browsing around the web of wake boarding and noticed the Child’s Play name come up. I went in for a closer look. Who wrote this story about the Newell boys???? Definitely not them. Being local in their district around the Windsor area and being a keen boater I know these guys personally. These guys are quietly spoken people and have been building good social and competitive Race boats for years. I’m lucky enough to have seen the new wake boat that is being built and it looks great, but the guys are not making any of these outrageous claims themselves, although most of the stats are correct with size and power plants. Believe me it is 1 big boat. Please don’t judge the new Child’s Play boat by the letter by Blackboat. It will be worth a look at. I can’t wait to see it on the water myself. I’m with the other guys letters and go for it Aussies.
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Postby MonsterMal » Fri Sep 17, 2004 10:04 am

I actually thought blackboats letter was pretty positive?....
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Postby Careless » Fri Sep 17, 2004 11:51 am

I think what jackass is trying to say these guys at childsplay aren't into big noting themselves, they let the proof lay in the pudding. The way way i look at it is these guys have definetley prooved to the world that they can build top quality boats, taking what they know about building'em and looking at what it takes to design a wake specific boat which compared to a race specific boat couldn't be any harder I'm excited to see how this boat performs especially since they have designed and built the thing from scratch and not tinkered with a hull design which was originally designed for slalom ''not naming any names''
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Airline 22

Postby blackboat » Sat Sep 18, 2004 3:02 pm

Pics of Airline 22'2 .
Hey Jackass , fitting handle.
Your right about one thing , the Newell Bros would never write a beat up about their product like I did. They are modest to the core.
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Airline 22'2

Postby blackboat » Sat Sep 18, 2004 3:11 pm

Brownie,
The boat will come with a standard 500 ltr , open the valve and let the water run in , sub floor system. The 1100 ltr system is in the pro model only and it is believed that this relatively light amount of weight will give pro level wakes. You have to remember that at Aust titles and NSW comps ballast is usually between 1200 and 1500 litres with an additional 400-500 kg of lead. The AirLine has been designed to never carry lead.
By the way your logo rules, I can watch it for hours.
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Airline 22'2

Postby blackboat » Sat Sep 18, 2004 3:21 pm

This is a pic of the new Childsplay AirLine 22'2 wake boat next to the Childsplay Commanche 20'6 ski boat.
The Commanche is about the size of a Response.
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Postby mat81 » Sat Sep 18, 2004 3:56 pm

Is it just me or does this boats lines look very "malibu"?
The underside of the hull in particular looks exactly like the VLX wakesetters...
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Airline

Postby blackboat » Sat Sep 18, 2004 4:13 pm

When you see it in the flesh it doesn't look like a Malibu though I admit in this pick it does abit. The deck is super rounded and wide , not at all like a Malibus straight up , across and over. Internally the cockpit is 500mm longer than a VLX. Its alot wider in the bow than anything else on the market which is also hard to tell from this angle.
As for the bottom being like VLX , the Airline transom has a 15 degree V where a VLX has about 2 degrees. The Airline also has an anti-cavitation delta which tapers from the skeg on an angle up to the transom to (1) give the big 13.7x19.5 OJ prop it runs more clean water and (2) help drop the arse of the boat into the water to aid with wake creation.
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Postby Brownie » Mon Sep 20, 2004 11:57 am

Blackboat they look good, cant say I have had any experience with these boats before.

You do not need that much weight for a pro sized wake. The Nautiqes do not need anywhere near this amount of weight for a competition wake. Hopefully JB, PJ or Matt can confirm what there comp set up is.

I understand that you need about 2 tonne in a VLX for a competion wake, I remember being told that the Orange Boarder VLX had 2 tonne in it at the Nowra pro tour stop two years ago and it was screaming its head off. To my knowledge all the others are pretty similar, even the Supra's still get extra weight for a comp wake.

At least these guys understand that you need alot of torque to move a weighted boat, any wake boat with a big block gets my vote. Can wait to see one in the flesh.
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Postby Brownie » Mon Sep 20, 2004 11:58 am

sorry, should of put this in previous post.

Not that any of this matters as I will never need a pro sized wake.
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Airline

Postby blackboat » Mon Sep 20, 2004 6:58 pm

Your right Brownie , we hope it wont need all that wake either . The hull has been designed to sit into the water so with any luck we will get away with only 500 litres of ballast. But we will allow for more just in case with the prototype.
The guys I know with Nautiques run around 1400 kg of water,lead.
And after speaking to Shaun Watkins last year they run closer to 1800kg in their factory boat.
Be nice not to need any , eh!
Your logo still rules!
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